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revert to the old potion making system

MattyPoltergeist

Professor
Minecraft IGN: MattyPoltergeist
Serpent Werewolf
#2
What do you mean the 'old potion making system'? Just the way you make potions? The ingredients? The potions available? The rewards? The levelling system? The selling system? Should the same be done for herbology and cooking? You can't just make a suggestion with 7 words and expect anyone to know what you're actually asking.
 

cheddarsoup

Graduate
Minecraft IGN: cheddarsoup
Auralock Phoenix Serpent Werewolf
#4
What do you mean the 'old potion making system'? Just the way you make potions? The ingredients? The potions available? The rewards? The levelling system? The selling system? Should the same be done for herbology and cooking? You can't just make a suggestion with 7 words and expect anyone to know what you're actually asking.
real ones know (refer to Ivan's video)
 

MattyPoltergeist

Professor
Minecraft IGN: MattyPoltergeist
Serpent Werewolf
#5
real ones know (refer to Ivan's video)
The very fact that there are 2 old potion making systems and you failed to specify which one you meant proves that your suggestion wasn't specific enough. You still haven't mentioned whether you think the entire system should be brought back or just the mechanism for making potions. Also, I don't think the old potion making mechanism should be brought back - the current one is fine.
 
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cheddarsoup

Graduate
Minecraft IGN: cheddarsoup
Auralock Phoenix Serpent Werewolf
#6
The very fact that there are 2 old potion making systems and you failed to specify which one you meant proves that your suggestion wasn't specific enough
refer to Ivan's video

You still haven't mentioned whether you think the entire system should be brought back or just the mechanism for making potions.
"potion making system" i'm going to let you use your best inference to guess whether i mean every old system that remotely relates to potion or just the mechanism for potion making


Also, I don't think the old potion making mechanism should be brought back - the current one is fine.
fair enough, i disagree because i think the old one was way more fun - actually a challenge to make potions, potion class had a purpose because you had to go there to learn the process and recipes for stuff, etc. the current system feels like a clicking simulator and there is nothing special about it. for lack of better words, all of the "magic" of potion making was completely erased whenever they switched from the old system to this one
 

HektorTM

Graduate
Minecraft IGN: HektorTM
Auralock Dark Follower Phoenix Serpent Vampire Werewolf SPEW
#7
i think the old one was way more fun - actually a challenge to make potions, potion class had a purpose because you had to go there to learn the process and recipes for stuff, etc. the current system feels like a clicking simulator and there is nothing special about it. for lack of better words, all of the "magic" of potion making was completely erased whenever they switched from the old system to this one
absolutely agree, i loved the old system and would love to see it back in a more advanced way maybe?(before you ask matty with more advanced i mean the tech behind it)
 

Ivan_

Professor
Minecraft IGN: _Navyy
Auralock Griffin Phoenix Vampire Werewolf
#8
Ok i have to weight in more.
First off, personally i prefer the old system. It was entertaining, the number of materials in the whole game didn't surpass like 15, the potions made sense (so no sticky sunscreens and such), you could sell the potions and the whole circle of materials/potions was a working economy, it was entertaining and fairly difficult, the potion rarities were really nice, the system itself was visually pleasing and i don't think it was difficult to use, it did have a small learning curve (learning to use temperatures, and learning the recipes) which is another plus in my eyes.
The reason (that we often hear/used to hear) that it got removed is that it was laggy, which is veryyyyyyyyyyyyy debatable. I could never brew legendary Felix (i did get a unique one, which is the tier before legendary) but my argument is that this new system isnt any less laggy or ping friendly, it's just that the rarities and extremely short time frames are gone. In fact, i think the hologram system is more glitchy (during butterbeer event 2022, those brews had rarities too and it just proved that the new system had the same issue as old one, if not worse).
Another reason which isn't really talked about, and I'm saying this allegedly, the old plugin wasn't ours, and the guy who made it didn't update it. And knowing pw, they want to have their own things. Therefore, a new custom plugin was made.
Now I spoke to a staff about this, I presented them an idea I had (for the potion system) that I still think it's great, but i was indirectly declined. Their goal is to find balance between an entertaining system (with many steps, possibly a learning curve etc.) but also an easy system that new players can understand and not rage quit. It appeared my idea wouldn't really be new player friendly.
Anyway, at the end I will say that old system was better and many people that raged on it weren't new people that didn't understand it, but people who's let's say, couldn't get the legendary Felix or people who rushed brewing and then failed. Also, if it didn't have rarities and time frames, it wouldn't be "difficult".
But generally the things that make the old system better in my eyes, and that I would like to see in the new system (idk about the mechanic, but the system will be new nonetheless) is
1. A more visually appealing system
2. System with lesser materials and useful potions that make sense, which you could possibly sell
3. Having recipes for potions and not just blindly jumping into brewing
4. Something more than just clicking the steps in order, in old system that was the temperature and stirring ig.
 

Liz Frogg

Magician
Staff
Drooble's Order
Minecraft IGN: cxrzyyy
Auralock Dark Follower Staff Phoenix Raven Vampire Werewolf Class Design Poltergeist Drooble's Order Engineer Intern
#9
Hi, @cheddarsoup and everyone else who contributed to this thread!

Unfortunately, this suggestion has been declined. We will be making a completely new potion system for 2.0 that isn't the original one, or the current one! We are hoping to improve on both with this new system.

Thank you all for your input, I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day!
 

cheddarsoup

Graduate
Minecraft IGN: cheddarsoup
Auralock Phoenix Serpent Werewolf
#10
Hi, @cheddarsoup and everyone else who contributed to this thread!

Unfortunately, this suggestion has been declined. We will be making a completely new potion system for 2.0 that isn't the original one, or the current one! We are hoping to improve on both with this new system.

Thank you all for your input, I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day!
will it be actually decent or no