I've kept quiet while watching this thread, simply because I did not think I had much of value to offer. I don't have much to say on the topic at hand because I don't generally duel, so I can't really have a good opinion on whether gear is good for it or not. However, a few things have been said throughout this thread that I now find worthy replying to, which is exactly what I'll be doing.
You don't know that nor do you have anything to back you up. Yes, there is a considerate amount of people who think this but that doesn't mean it's the general opinion. I don't think it's very productive to claim something like this when you're trying to get a suggestion implemented.
The amount of support isn't necessarily the biggest determining factor when staff decides on accepting a suggestion or not. While I admire your optimism, you can just look back at all the suggestions in the past about bringing back the survival server (for example). There's still a big group of people who want to see that returned, but it doesn't because the staff team doesn't want it returned. No matter how big the support on any of those suggestions, that just isn't going to happen. Don't take this personal, but I'm just saying, while it's true that this thread is getting a big amount of support, it doesn't necessarily change anything.
That, or they just haven't come to the point where they are what Flip describes as the type of people that he envisions as the type of people that duel on PW: those with max level and good gear. I think that a system like this one takes time to really get used to for the entire playerbase. This takes longer for some people than for others, as a lot of things (if not everything) has changed. I simply don't think you can judge this system based on how it's been since the release of revelius, as a month hasn't even passed for players to truly have gotten used to all the new stuff, in my opinion.
I don't believe Flip actually gave negative backlash towards the suggestion itself in the post from him preceding this one. As far as I could gather, he was merely shedding light on what seemed to have been a slight case of miscommunication, nothing more.
I don't know whether you were there or not when this occurred, but around the time Quabbleball got released there were A LOT of people asking for randomised teams. There were a good number of uservoice suggestions and even an official poll that seemed to point at the idea that this was really something the community wanted. But it never happened. My point? Sometimes ideas that are highly valued by the community get declined, that's just the sort of thing that happens. I don't think you "placing your bet on it" now that it hasn't been declined yet isn't doing much when it comes to potentially getting this suggestion accepted.
And to be honest, from what I've read throughout Flip's post, if I were to bet I'd be putting my money on declining with the given reasoning that a different "solution" was already implemented, since a different "solution" is exactly what seems to be coming in PW's direction according to Flip's post.
I really don't see a correlation between these 2 things. The fact that popular suggestions are declined does not, in my opinion, in any way or form mean that the staff team doesn't value the community's opinion. Instead, I believe it just means that the staff team uses its position to respectfully disagree with their playerbase. And at the end of the day, they are the people that run this server, so they get to decide what happens with it. The fact that they decide to do something different than what the playerbase is asking for, doesn't mean they don't value such an opinion, in my opinion.
The community is a lot bigger than 21 people. Yes, your suggestion is getting a lot of attention, but it's unfair to say that the entire community enjoys your suggestion.
As I said earlier, I, for one, don't really care what happens to dueling and I know a lot of people who don't either. Your post may be popular within the dueling community, that doesn't necessarily mean it's popular in the entire community.
This argument would be a plausible one if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of people have replied multiple times to this thread. Including your original post, you have sent 14 forum posts in total within this thread alone. The "2 pages of replies" argument only really serves to prove a point about this topic causing a lot of discussion, but in my opinion, not at all about the amount of people in favor of this suggestion.
I don't believe in your "everyone who replied supports this idea so the other side will of course be quiet" argument. I think a more plausible explanation is given when it comes to what I've said before, that there is simply a considerable amount of players who simply don't care about the topic and therefore avoid this thread as they don't have much of value to add.
I don't think it's fair to compare thread views with replies either. I don't know whether you've taken into consideration what I said before about people replying to this thread multiple times, but the same can be said especially about thread views. People revisit threads when new comments have been posted, so for me this "7%" really doesn't say much. Even through all of the possible flaws in statistics, it still has to be said that this thread is getting a lot of support for a "mere" forum suggestion. There are barely any other forum suggestions that have the same amount of likes and original replying players as this one, so in that respect, Avi does have somewhat of a point when it comes to playerbase support.
That's everything I had to say so far, and as always it's good to point out that none of this is personal, they are mere opinions on the topics that have been brought up so far while I have nothing against the people that have stated them whatsoever.
You don't know that nor do you have anything to back you up. Yes, there is a considerate amount of people who think this but that doesn't mean it's the general opinion. I don't think it's very productive to claim something like this when you're trying to get a suggestion implemented.
The amount of support isn't necessarily the biggest determining factor when staff decides on accepting a suggestion or not. While I admire your optimism, you can just look back at all the suggestions in the past about bringing back the survival server (for example). There's still a big group of people who want to see that returned, but it doesn't because the staff team doesn't want it returned. No matter how big the support on any of those suggestions, that just isn't going to happen. Don't take this personal, but I'm just saying, while it's true that this thread is getting a big amount of support, it doesn't necessarily change anything.
That, or they just haven't come to the point where they are what Flip describes as the type of people that he envisions as the type of people that duel on PW: those with max level and good gear. I think that a system like this one takes time to really get used to for the entire playerbase. This takes longer for some people than for others, as a lot of things (if not everything) has changed. I simply don't think you can judge this system based on how it's been since the release of revelius, as a month hasn't even passed for players to truly have gotten used to all the new stuff, in my opinion.
I don't believe Flip actually gave negative backlash towards the suggestion itself in the post from him preceding this one. As far as I could gather, he was merely shedding light on what seemed to have been a slight case of miscommunication, nothing more.
I don't know whether you were there or not when this occurred, but around the time Quabbleball got released there were A LOT of people asking for randomised teams. There were a good number of uservoice suggestions and even an official poll that seemed to point at the idea that this was really something the community wanted. But it never happened. My point? Sometimes ideas that are highly valued by the community get declined, that's just the sort of thing that happens. I don't think you "placing your bet on it" now that it hasn't been declined yet isn't doing much when it comes to potentially getting this suggestion accepted.
And to be honest, from what I've read throughout Flip's post, if I were to bet I'd be putting my money on declining with the given reasoning that a different "solution" was already implemented, since a different "solution" is exactly what seems to be coming in PW's direction according to Flip's post.
TLDR: Community wants this so if they decline it then the staff team doesn't value the community's opinions... 
The community is a lot bigger than 21 people. Yes, your suggestion is getting a lot of attention, but it's unfair to say that the entire community enjoys your suggestion.
As I said earlier, I, for one, don't really care what happens to dueling and I know a lot of people who don't either. Your post may be popular within the dueling community, that doesn't necessarily mean it's popular in the entire community.
This argument would be a plausible one if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of people have replied multiple times to this thread. Including your original post, you have sent 14 forum posts in total within this thread alone. The "2 pages of replies" argument only really serves to prove a point about this topic causing a lot of discussion, but in my opinion, not at all about the amount of people in favor of this suggestion.
I don't believe in your "everyone who replied supports this idea so the other side will of course be quiet" argument. I think a more plausible explanation is given when it comes to what I've said before, that there is simply a considerable amount of players who simply don't care about the topic and therefore avoid this thread as they don't have much of value to add.
I don't think it's fair to compare thread views with replies either. I don't know whether you've taken into consideration what I said before about people replying to this thread multiple times, but the same can be said especially about thread views. People revisit threads when new comments have been posted, so for me this "7%" really doesn't say much. Even through all of the possible flaws in statistics, it still has to be said that this thread is getting a lot of support for a "mere" forum suggestion. There are barely any other forum suggestions that have the same amount of likes and original replying players as this one, so in that respect, Avi does have somewhat of a point when it comes to playerbase support.
That's everything I had to say so far, and as always it's good to point out that none of this is personal, they are mere opinions on the topics that have been brought up so far while I have nothing against the people that have stated them whatsoever.
